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Thread Starter: Global Crier   Started: 10-19-2009 5:42 PM   Replies: 8
  Oct 19, 2009, 5:42 PM
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State of Israel is a Terrorist Jewish State
The Palestinians, Arab nations as well as the nations of the world should recognize the terrorist Jewish State of Israel. The acts of Israeli Jewish terror against the indigenous Palestinian population for over sixty years has been very well documented, but it has not been heard and understood by Americans people. The true story is more understood by the American Jewish community that divided into two major camps as are the Israelis people. One side unconditionally supports the official Israeli government position for the Greater Israeli Jewish State plan and the other side question many of the Israeli government actions and policies toward the Palestinian and Arab people.

If there is a place that is a man made hell on earth it would be Gaza. The Israeli government will be the first to tell you that they pulled their troops and settlers out of Gaza in 2005. They won’t tell you that they have nearly a million and half Palestinian people caged in, almost totally cut off from the outside world. The Israeli Defense Forces have destroyed thousands of Palestinian people’s homes while stopping tons of foreign humanitarian aid reaching the Palestinian people. The Israelis control almost all of the electricity, fresh water, border trade, and seaports of the people in Gaza and the same holds true to the Palestinian people in the West Bank. The Palestinian people are cut off from seeing their family members and Holy sites in Jerusalem and other places.

The long recorded pattern of abuse and torment in a collected fashion against the Palestinian people has gone on far too long by the Israelis. The State of Israel by design is a Jewish State with little to no room for anyone else with the Israeli government owning and controlling 93% of the land for Jewish use only. Over the years the Israeli government’s actions and policies have created a lot of hatred and animosities in the Palestinian and Arab world that is over flowing into the rest of the world. It is the disposition-al use of military force by the Israelis, who are unconditionally supported by the United States government and Jewish main street institutions that outrages those people who are really informed to the true realities on the ground.

The Israeli government calls it a fence while the vast majority of the world sees it as a wall. It is only the United States government and American Christian people who are blinded by the Israeli lies. It is the double standard that the United States and State of Israel maintain that has divided the world into us verses them. Putting both nations in a no win situation over the course of time.

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  Oct 21, 2009, 10:29 AM
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Re: State of Israel is a Terrorist Jewish State
And since the security wall has been built the number of suicide bombings has dropped completely.  What a shame for you that the barrier actually works and stops terrorists...

Or would you like the fence destroyed so that the bombers can just walk into restaurants and detonate themselves again?

As for Gaza,  incorrect,  the reason the borders are closed is because of the rockets that are still being fired at Israel from gaza,  israel has said repeatedly that if and when the rockets stop then the border will be opened,  so far that has not happened. 

Jerusalem is not cut off from the PA at all,  so no idea where you got that from,  and before you call me a liar i was in Jerusalem last week,  were you?



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  Oct 22, 2009, 9:48 PM
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Allan
Allan Please take a look at the following report and tell me you would not lash out in some violent way. Against those who have collectively imprisoned you while they take your homeland away from you over the last 60+ years. It is a crime against humanity for Jewish Americans, Europeans and Russians to have more rights and privileges than the indigenous of their land. Allan it must be nice to have on rose colored glasses so you do not have to see the true facts on the ground. Allan please do so research to what the other side has to say. I have included some other links. David Global Crier



Weekly Report
On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the
Occupied Palestinian Territory

27 August- 02 September 2009
http://www.palestine-pmc.com/pdf/10-09-2009.pdf




http://www.un.org/unrwa/

http://www.palestine-pmc.com/

http://www.wrmea.org/

http://palestinechronicle.com/

http://www.miftah.org/Index.cfm

  
  Oct 23, 2009, 8:57 AM
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Re: Allan
And not one of your links says the percentage drop in the rate of bombings since the construction of the wall.  Why is that i wonder? 

Now you go and mention the history of israel,  actually the Jews were there over 2000 years ago,  and in 1948 we agreed to the partition plan,  can you tell who didnt agree to the plan?  And this goes back to the security barrier,  do you honestly think that blowing up women and children in a restaurant is a way to say we want peace and can divide the land?  Or do you just want all of Israel and for us to simply vanish?  You also mention about Jewish people coming from other countries,  you forgot to mention the jewish refugees from arab countries in that list as well as saying how many those people were.

Also worth pointing out in all your reports is the double standards involved,  how many refugees are still in other arab countries,  with no citizenship, work rights or job rights?  Other countries,  israel included does not class generations of people as being refugees. 

it is not me that needs to do the research,  it is you my friend as you fail to mention the history of israel, of the jewish people and of the more recent history of the area. 



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  Oct 25, 2009, 4:19 AM
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Israel Must Reform
The Goldstone United Nations report has hit a nerve with the Israeli government because it high-lights one piece of the truth that has gone on for decades. The true facts on the ground and the realities of truth are clearly in the Palestinian people’s favor. United States Ambassador Susan Rice called for the an end to “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks at the United Nation in Jerusalem while the United States-European and the State of Israel play out two weeks of war games. The United States and the State of Israel are the master of mass media manipulation of the truth to cover their path of sins and crimes of the past. Prime Minister Netanyahu address to the United Nation in Sept. 2009 epitomizes this so well. Talking about the Goldstone Report, Holocaust and the Islamic terrorists as Israeli’s right to do anything to defend her self.
What the State of Israel has done in the name of defense is to create a Slowocaust with a very sophisticated high tech military industrial complex over the last sixty years. Today it is only Israelis that can make better military hardware and software than the United States military industrial complex. For two weeks they will test the software and hardware of these missiles near Gaza and the West Bank where the Palestinian people have been living imprisoned under Israel military control for years. So something as simple as a plane helicopter, or jet flying over head has a totally different meaning and feeling that someone who lives under imprisoned occupation for so long.
The latest military actions the State of Israel that has done outside borders of Israel proper must be investigated and those worthy of trial must be tried before the International Court of Law. Including the bombings, military attacks and occupation of Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, West Bank and Iran. Only after the State of Israel has been held accountable for its illegal military and social action against the Palestinian people and dramatic internal political changes are made. Then the State of Israel should be respected as South Africa and Germany are today within the global community of nations.
So if United States Ambassador Susan Rice wants to bring an end to the “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks by the international community of nations. Have the United States government put the pressure on the government of Israel to change her evil ways of today and to make amends with the Palestinian people. The transformation of Germany and South Africa would have never taken place without the global international pressure being applied. The same kind of international pressure has to be applied on the State of Israel to make the reforms that are needed to gain acceptance and respect within the international community of nations.



  
  Oct 25, 2009, 10:19 AM
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Re: Israel Must Reform
And this has nothing to do with the original post and is deflecting the question i posed to you about the relationship of the security wall to the level of suicide bombings inside Israel. 

You also fail to mention in your copy of an artice,  that Hamas also committed crimes against humanity,  the use of human shields and rocket attacks against civilians,  as well as the deliberate use of bombings to inflict maximum civilian casualties.

You also have failed to mention the historical reference as to why israel occupies the west bank and the golan heights.  You failed to mention that in 1973,  Syria attacked Israel and lost the Golan heights after being pushed off in battles,  the west bank was the same with Jordan.  And the same with Gaza,  except Egypt didnt want it back.  As for Lebanon,  again in 2006, crossing an international border and killing and capturing IDF soldiers is an act of war,  and then launching rockets across at civilian population centers is also yet another crime against humanity.  I expect you to now find some UN reports citing those crimes against israeli civilians,  or do they matter less to you?



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  Oct 25, 2009, 9:40 PM
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Definition Slowocaust
Link to Bill Moyers interview with Justice Richard Goldstone, who headed up the controversial UN Human Rights Council investigation into fighting in Gaza between Israel and Hamas.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10232009/watch.html


Definition Slowocaust The collective imprisonment, torture and control of every aspect of life of a large group of people by another nation’s military force over the course of time.

  
  Oct 25, 2009, 9:40 PM
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Definition Slowocaust
Link to Bill Moyers interview with Justice Richard Goldstone, who headed up the controversial UN Human Rights Council investigation into fighting in Gaza between Israel and Hamas.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10232009/watch.html


Definition Slowocaust The collective imprisonment, torture and control of every aspect of life of a large group of people by another nation’s military force over the course of time.

  
  Oct 26, 2009, 9:28 AM
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Re: Definition Slowocaust
And still no answer to any of my questions at all,  as for you saying about Gaza,  funny how they always seem to have money / weapons / parts for rockets / mortars / explosives and that the Hamas militia look very well fed.  I wonder what happens to the billions of dollars in aid that has been delivered to gaza through the erez border crossing point?  Strange that isnt it,  must be the slowest and worst genocide in history. 

You once again have failed to mention the reports findings on Hamas and their crimes against humanity,  firing rockets at civilians,  using human shields,  booby trapping schools and civilian buildings, even a zoo!  The timing of rocket attacks to coincide with morning school,  all of these are also crimes against humanity as the deliberate targetting of israeli civilians.  Please show links of that as well,  or some might think you are biased and cannot actually talk,  but just post silly links. 







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